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Compare and/ or contrast two poems; three thesis statements


lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #1
I have to write 3 thesis statements ;Compare and/ or contrast two of the 5 poems
Fire and Ice by Robert Frost
Fog by Carl Sandburg
The Base Stealer by Robert Francis
Nature by Henry David Thoreau
A Noiseless Patient spider by Walt Whitman
I have no idea how ...can someone help please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking about the last two , one want to be in nature and one compare himself to a spider spinning web
This is deal tomorrow!!! i feel so stupid!!!!
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #2
Do you need to write a five-paragraph essay?
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #3
for today i have to write the thesis first ,,, i have to show everyone in class tomorrow !!! :( Please help me!!
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #4
I'm still here. I wish there were a better way to communicate...

Are you still there? I'll check back in three minutes.

We'll get this done.
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #6
Do you understand these poems?

Fire and Ice by Robert Frost
Fog by Carl Sandburg
Nature by Henry David Thoreau
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #7
jkjeremy
can you help me please !!!!
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #8
Of course.

Do you understand these poems?

Fire and Ice by Robert Frost
Fog by Carl Sandburg
Nature by Henry David Thoreau
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #10
Which two do you best understand?
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #11
Well i understand Nature by Henry David Thoreau
A Noiseless Patient spider by Walt Whitman the best i guess
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #12
Is "A Noiseless Patient Spider" in any way about nature?
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #13
well the guy compare himself to a spider
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #14
Have you ever heard the word "transcendentalism"?
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #16
Okay. Is this for a high school class?

I'm asking these questions for a reason, so be patient.
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #17
Im an freshman in high school but i have never heard of it :(
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #18
What big ideas are discussed in BOTH poems?
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #19
Nature

O Nature! I do not aspire
To be the highest in thy choir, -
To be a meteor in thy sky,
Or comet that may range on high;
Only a zephyr that may blow
Among the reeds by the river low;
Give me thy most privy place
Where to run my airy race.

In some withdrawn, unpublic mead
Let me sigh upon a reed,
Or in the woods, with leafy din,
Whisper the still evening in:
Some still work give me to do, -
Only - be it near to you!

For I'd rather be thy child
And pupil, in the forest wild,
Than be the king of men elsewhere,
And most sovereign slave of care;
To have one moment of thy dawn,
Than share the city's year forlorn.
Henry David Thoreau
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #20
Good start.

What human feelings do BOTH poems deal with?

Guess if you have to.
jasmine4ever 5 / 13 1  
Jan 14, 2013   #21
Maybe you should pick two of the poems that you know very well and reread it again until you know exactly what the poem is trying to say and the hidden meaning behind it. Then maybe you should find the moral of the poem and try putting it into sentences b/c the thesis is basically a sentence that consists the main idea of what you're trying to say and it tells a summary of what you're going to write about it in the body paragraphs. So you should find the main idea behind the two poems and convert them into sentences and there you have your thesis!

Hope this helps!
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #22
A Noiseless Patient Spider
BY WALT WHITMAN
A noiseless patient spider,
I mark'd where on a little promontory it stood isolated,
Mark'd how to explore the vacant vast surrounding,
It launch'd forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself,
Ever unreeling them, ever tirelessly speeding them.

And you O my soul where you stand,
Surrounded, detached, in measureless oceans of space,
Ceaselessly musing, venturing, throwing, seeking the spheres to connect them,
Till the bridge you will need be form'd, till the ductile anchor hold,
Till the gossamer thread you fling catch somewhere, O my soul.
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #23
Don't worry; I have both poems up right now.
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #24
Nature;stay away from the bustle of city and civilization
A noiseless patient spider ; lonely
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 14, 2013   #25
Good start, but...

What I mean to ask is, what human feelings do the two poems have in COMMON?

Back in three min...
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 14, 2013   #26
i dont really know ...i am really bad at poetry
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 15, 2013   #27
I understand. Look up these words...

FATE and SOLITUDE

even if you know what they mean.
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 15, 2013   #29
Each poem confronts the individual's role in the universe .
Both speakers ponder their fate and destiny .
In both poems, the speaker addresses the issue of solitude .

Without wanting to stay up all night, and knowing that you need something NOW, I think these will do.

However, do you understand why I chose these?
OP lovepurple5 1 / 14  
Jan 15, 2013   #30
yes thank you so much !!! you are so helpful !!!
jkjeremy - / 380 72  
Jan 15, 2013   #31
You're welcome! I wish there were a way for people to contact each other here; this essay is not gonna be a simple proposition!


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